Sam Ireland from FOAMfrat invited me on to their podcast to talk more about PAs in EMS. This was a fantastic conversational piece that is well worth listening to in order to learn more about what it means to have PAs in EMS and the potential future of such as role.
There have been some previous podcasts touching parts of this conversation with Podcast #208 covering recent legislation in Missouri for PAs in EMS andPodcast #48 which was an interview with Kevin Burns and his role as a prehospital PA. It is definitely worth taking the time to listen to these two podcasts for more details on those subjects.
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Rob C.
9/28/2020 09:03:23 pm
Discussing degree requirements in EMS is like automatically kicking over the anthill. As you mention in your podcast, we each have our humble thoughts, but the most inspiring healthcare providers I've had the chance to interact with are the ones who have a desire for continuous self-improvement and learning, clinical excellence and are enthusiastically and selflessly serving others - creating the culture we all want to work and learn in (like the FoamFrat guys). These providers often end up being paramedics or physicians, but not always and sometimes the wisest clinicians I've met are EMTs with a desire to learn and amazing ability to teach. I think often times education and other requirements are used as proxy to try to find the people who meet the criteria discussed above, thinking that those who have self-selected the added burden of training likely fulfill those attributes. However, this is not always the case and it is neither necessary or sufficient. Rather than locking in a particular training path, like degree requirements, or carving in stone particularly state scopes of practice, I wish those with a megaphone could use their position to advocate for competency based testing. Maybe the right answer is to be able to challenge the PA national exam or rural EMTs to be able to perform IOs - every local jurisdiction is this country is different. I think it's hard to say what the right answer is but wish we could all be as open minded as possible and realize that by creating singular paths we will disenfranchise large segments of the population who do not have the resources or time to fit within a narrow pipeline.
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